Concerning Bond's Scottish heritage, I have heard that Fleming was a bit reluctant to have Connery cast as Bond, but when he saw the movie had a rethink and added in the Scottish ancestry.
Yes bond only really makes sense during, cold war , Britain was very still important geopolitically and their was some vestiges of imperial spirit, post war generation elites....the class system , and we Still believed in English cullteral superiority .. Modern bond it's just another action film, I really don't care about drug dealer villains , and media mogals , plus it's just not possible to have a sexist..stiff upper lip character , postmodernist film demands , empathic, troubled .. "liberal "characters I definitely recommend the books , very amusing highly unpc, much better written than I expected , tbh I've been avoiding the Amazon Bond content, it's just more woke is crap content.., but I'm figured this would have depth, which it did.. thank you
A really good discussion. I have noticed that Barbara Broccoli has been involved in some interesting projects recently. ‘Till’ and ‘Ear for Eye’ seem as far away from Bond you can get. Maybe she doesn’t want to turn her own family’s franchise woke, but is spending more time on woke projects.
Regarding the use of surname ( at one time just the name ) rather than given name (Christian name until the ‘80s), at least in Australia, it was more extensive than just posh (for Australia) private schools. The accelerating abandonment of surnames has the effect of weakening identification with the family.
When I first watched Skyfall, I remember thinking it was a "cope" to pretend that good ol' fashioned man-on-the-ground espionage could out manoeuvre AI. But now that we've been exposed to Claude for a while, that take seems ahead of its time. We're staring down the barrel of unending regurgitation from anything corporate, and human beings that we know are *real*, far from replaced, look to become an ever-higher premium. As Morgoth talked about in "Beyond the Garden of Slop" https://morgoth.substack.com/p/beyond-the-garden-of-slop
Great episode. To defend the American side, our Bond is not Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt. Our Bond is a British actor playing Bruce Wayne.
I think this is right. Vigilantism is much more a part of the American character than the British one
Concerning Bond's Scottish heritage, I have heard that Fleming was a bit reluctant to have Connery cast as Bond, but when he saw the movie had a rethink and added in the Scottish ancestry.
Yes bond only really makes sense during, cold war , Britain was very still important geopolitically and their was some vestiges of imperial spirit, post war generation elites....the class system , and we Still believed in English cullteral superiority .. Modern bond it's just another action film, I really don't care about drug dealer villains , and media mogals , plus it's just not possible to have a sexist..stiff upper lip character , postmodernist film demands , empathic, troubled .. "liberal "characters I definitely recommend the books , very amusing highly unpc, much better written than I expected , tbh I've been avoiding the Amazon Bond content, it's just more woke is crap content.., but I'm figured this would have depth, which it did.. thank you
Did not realize Morgoth was a Geordie.
He hides the accent well
LOL
Some great insights. Thanks!
Thanks Richard
That was great fun.
Thanks Bob
A really good discussion. I have noticed that Barbara Broccoli has been involved in some interesting projects recently. ‘Till’ and ‘Ear for Eye’ seem as far away from Bond you can get. Maybe she doesn’t want to turn her own family’s franchise woke, but is spending more time on woke projects.
Alas, this is news to me
Greaaaaat
I take it then that Morgoth looks like Brian Johnson from Accadacca/Sid the Sexist
If it wasn't for Bezos I might put money on new Bond 'rebooted spin-off franchise product' being yookay vs Trump's dystopian techlord America
Good to see this crossover.
Cheers Phil
thought it said ‘yockey james bond’
For emperor and imperium, James
Regarding the use of surname ( at one time just the name ) rather than given name (Christian name until the ‘80s), at least in Australia, it was more extensive than just posh (for Australia) private schools. The accelerating abandonment of surnames has the effect of weakening identification with the family.
The Daniel Craig era wasn’t too woke, Morgoth says.
It had a black Moneypenny.
Awesome pod. Very fun.
Glad you enjoyed!
Moore and Connery were from the Working Class, which makes your observation on their natural confidence in tailored clothes nonsense.
Bond shoukd never have git past the 1960s.
I misspoke - I said they were both former actors, but I meant former models, used to wearing fine clothes
Who is your favourite Bond and why is it Rodger Moore?
When I first watched Skyfall, I remember thinking it was a "cope" to pretend that good ol' fashioned man-on-the-ground espionage could out manoeuvre AI. But now that we've been exposed to Claude for a while, that take seems ahead of its time. We're staring down the barrel of unending regurgitation from anything corporate, and human beings that we know are *real*, far from replaced, look to become an ever-higher premium. As Morgoth talked about in "Beyond the Garden of Slop" https://morgoth.substack.com/p/beyond-the-garden-of-slop