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Andrew Flattery's avatar

Great episode. To defend the American side, our Bond is not Jason Bourne or Ethan Hunt. Our Bond is a British actor playing Bruce Wayne.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

I think this is right. Vigilantism is much more a part of the American character than the British one

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John Wood's avatar

Concerning Bond's Scottish heritage, I have heard that Fleming was a bit reluctant to have Connery cast as Bond, but when he saw the movie had a rethink and added in the Scottish ancestry.

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LensLarque's avatar

Yes bond only really makes sense during, cold war , Britain was very still important geopolitically and their was some vestiges of imperial spirit, post war generation elites....the class system , and we Still believed in English cullteral superiority .. Modern bond it's just another action film, I really don't care about drug dealer villains , and media mogals , plus it's just not possible to have a sexist..stiff upper lip character , postmodernist film demands , empathic, troubled .. "liberal "characters I definitely recommend the books , very amusing highly unpc, much better written than I expected , tbh I've been avoiding the Amazon Bond content, it's just more woke is crap content.., but I'm figured this would have depth, which it did.. thank you

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Commander Nelson's avatar

Did not realize Morgoth was a Geordie.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

He hides the accent well

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Commander Nelson's avatar

LOL

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Richard Nichols's avatar

Some great insights. Thanks!

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

Thanks Richard

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Bob The Beautiful's avatar

That was great fun.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

Thanks Bob

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Basil Fawlty's avatar

A really good discussion. I have noticed that Barbara Broccoli has been involved in some interesting projects recently. ‘Till’ and ‘Ear for Eye’ seem as far away from Bond you can get. Maybe she doesn’t want to turn her own family’s franchise woke, but is spending more time on woke projects.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

Alas, this is news to me

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Shade of Achilles's avatar

Greaaaaat

I take it then that Morgoth looks like Brian Johnson from Accadacca/Sid the Sexist

If it wasn't for Bezos I might put money on new Bond 'rebooted spin-off franchise product' being yookay vs Trump's dystopian techlord America

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Phil James's avatar

Good to see this crossover.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

Cheers Phil

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Photosynthz's avatar

thought it said ‘yockey james bond’

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

For emperor and imperium, James

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Norman Lindsay's avatar

Regarding the use of surname ( at one time just the name ) rather than given name (Christian name until the ‘80s), at least in Australia, it was more extensive than just posh (for Australia) private schools. The accelerating abandonment of surnames has the effect of weakening identification with the family.

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Ralph Blunsom's avatar

The Daniel Craig era wasn’t too woke, Morgoth says.

It had a black Moneypenny.

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Gabbai of Lemberg's avatar

Awesome pod. Very fun.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

Glad you enjoyed!

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Martinidry's avatar

Moore and Connery were from the Working Class, which makes your observation on their natural confidence in tailored clothes nonsense.

Bond shoukd never have git past the 1960s.

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Johann Kurtz's avatar

I misspoke - I said they were both former actors, but I meant former models, used to wearing fine clothes

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grief's avatar

Who is your favourite Bond and why is it Rodger Moore?

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James Mathison's avatar

When I first watched Skyfall, I remember thinking it was a "cope" to pretend that good ol' fashioned man-on-the-ground espionage could out manoeuvre AI. But now that we've been exposed to Claude for a while, that take seems ahead of its time. We're staring down the barrel of unending regurgitation from anything corporate, and human beings that we know are *real*, far from replaced, look to become an ever-higher premium. As Morgoth talked about in "Beyond the Garden of Slop" https://morgoth.substack.com/p/beyond-the-garden-of-slop

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